Minutes for the
ITC-Research Computing Management Meeting
March 26, 2007 at 10:30AM
2015 Ivy Road, 2nd Floor Conference Room
Members: Alice, Hamp, Jim,
Joe S., Mark, Mike, Robin, Terry, Tim S., Tom, Tim T.
Attending: Alice, Hamp, Jim, Joe S., Mark, Mike,
Robin, Tim S., Tom, Tim T.
Chair: Tim T. Recorder: Alice Howard
I. Connection Question: What about research computing do you find
compelling and why? (or not)
II. Corrections to minutes
from last meeting on February 26, 2007? None.
(Click to review the
agenda from this meeting
)
III. Old Business:
(Italics indicate original agenda item text)
- Proposed research computing hardware
expenditures. Decided at February meeting:
- Buy large memory nodes (~8 nodes of ~16GB)
for new cluster to replace Athena. Have operational in mid-summer.
- Could use any remaining funds to buy
additional nodes for dogwood
- Retire birch, not buy new nodes to make
"new birch" cluster. Likely not offer infiniband (or other high
speed interconnect) replacement.
- Hamp recommended that we go with Xeon (dual core)
and distributed some sample pricing from Dell for three different
configurations. After
discussions about power needs, 16 GB vs. 32 GB, etc., the group chose the:
Xeon
5160 (80 w)
3.0 GHz, 4 MB cache
32 GB (8 * 4 GB DIMM) - maximum memory available
160 GB disk (mirrored)
$15,418.25
head + 4 compute = $ 77,091.25
head + 8 compute = $138,764.25
(plus
$7500 for other hardware – i.e. Nortel switch, PDU, storage)
- Applications that are likely to be used on this
cluster include commercial packages like Ansys, Matlab, Mathematica.
- Researchers can buy-in to cluster with 1-2 nodes
and get dedicated access.
- However for Dogwood, the policy is still: buy 5, get dedicated access to 4. The original thinking was to
“contribute to the common good” – but it might be time to consider
changing to ‘buy 1, get 1” or “buy 5, get 5”, etc.
- Review and modify queuing policies that
discourage rapid turnaround over long running jobs – want to experiment
with policies -- and have future public forum on queuing policies.
Increase awareness on existing test queues of clusters.
- from prior meetings: (Tom) Genomics might want to
buy in to cluster, but probably not want 5 nodes at our current specs –
Tom will talk to them. They
need large memory computers.
- What about allowing researchers to buy "priority"
time on dogwood cluster? By
“priority” do we mean a pre-emptive jump to the head of the line/queue? Or
the ability to “own/reserve” a queue? We might be able to find a solution from someplace else
– Tim T. will look into it – at least we could use it as a straw-man.
- Linux Clusters: Birch, Cedar, Dogwood - any
issues, concerns or upcoming updates/changes?
- Matt Neurock’s group might still want to keep
Birch running – will take one of their jobs – run it on Birch and Dogwood
-- and see where it runs faster.
- Aim to shut Birch down by August 1 – will need
to see how Neurock’s code performs on Dogwood – meanwhile other Birch
users can be moving to Dogwood starting now.
- Any update on conversion to authenticate to
Eservices via Kerberos for Unix logins/connections for Blue.unix? (AKA
Phase 2 of Netbadge CDP and "unified password" web site). No
change.
- Infrastructure Supporting Research Task Force
(https://www1.seas.virginia.edu/itrtf/).
(Maillist is itrtf@virginia.edu)
- UVa's participation in ORNL's response to NSF
RFP for next generation/iteration of Supercomputing Center . The full
proposal was due on 2/2/07 - Mike to check with Mitch on status/update?
IV. New Business:
- Project Implicit, PI: Brian Nosek, Psychology
Department. Project description at: NIH-IPP.researchplan.B-Nosek.pdf
- Looking for kind and amount of assistance
from ITC (mostly) for project. Project web site is at Harvard. Uses
Oracle back-end. Gets tens of thousands of hits, especially when featured
on TV. Have Java programmers who would welcome consultations on how to
make code more efficient and robust. Would be interested in moving
infrastructure (Oracle DB and cluster) here. Web site is http://implicit.harvard.edu
- Carla Lee, Andrew Sallans (from Brown SEL)
and Tim Tolson met with Brian and two students on the project last week
to get some background on the project and their needs. Brief
summary of this meeting
- Do we want to host this? What does it need? What are they asking from us?
(Note: we do not have any
spare power or space) Add
Hamp into the next meeting with them.
- In light of our familiarity with collaborative
model of communities, consider for next meeting, re-examining our purpose,
our membership and our constituency.
- what are we about/doing?
- who are we as group?
- Do we have the right group of folks?
- Are we organized/operating
effectively/efficiently?
- We could re-examine these issues – is there
an opportunity for a community here? A way to get faculty input?
- Any other Items?
V. Adjourn by 12:00 and next
meeting
- Next Scheduled Meeting of ITC ResComp Standing
Committee: Monday, April 29th, 10:30 AM in ITC-2015 Ivy Road, Room #102 (First
Floor Conference Room)!
Please send suggestions, additions, corrections to: Tim Tolson or Alice Howard

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