Minutes for the ITC-Research Computing Management Meeting

August 28, 2006 at 10:30AM

(2015 Ivy Rd, 2nd floor Conference Room)

 

Members: Alice, Hamp, Jim, Joe S., Mark, Robin, Terry, Tim S., Tom S., Tim T.

Attending:  Alice, Bill, James H., Mike McP., Joe S., Mark, Steve L., Tang, Terry, Tim S., Tom S., Tim T.

Chair: Tim T. Recorder: Alice Howard

I.  Corrections to minutes from last Management team meeting on July 24, 2006?  No.

    ( Click to review the agenda from this meeting )

II. Ongoing Discussion Topics:

 

·    “Condo” Cluster #2 – aka Dogwood: 

o      Update on configuration and rollout from Bill Pemberton:  have 200 nodes going and being tested; power is holding up so far, but still need to see what happens when fully loaded – so will submit some computational load tests

o      Katherine and Ed working on “configuration” list for dogwood and OS updates of other clusters.

o      Tim’s group can set up a test queue on Dogwood.

o      Any word from Mitch or SEAS faculty that wanted nodes or Infiniband cluster?  Jim gave Mitch & faculty member pricing, waiting on response.

o      Tom S. reported that a HS faculty is interested in purchasing 8-16 of the existing nodes.

·   Cedar Cluster:  schedule of OS update? (based on dogwood rollout)

o      Can do this once Dogwood has been rolled out and looks good – will aim for right  after October Reading Day (10/9) – will do Cedar then Birch, and will need to schedule 3 days of downtime per cluster

o      Avaki gateway setup – new software version released yet?

o      Can we set timeline for cedar becoming a 64-bit cluster?  Winter Break would be best opportunity, otherwise we’re into summer and needing to setup next new cluster.  Getting growing number of applications and users for it.  Will need to set up test 64-bit nodes and see.

·   Aspen & Birch Clusters:  (schedule of OS update to Birch ONLY in early August will be based on dogwood rollout) 

o      Aspen retirement this fall, announced cutoff will be November 20 (Thanksgiving Break). 

o      Other issues/concerns?

·   Oak Cluster:  Did the round-robin login get enabled on July 5? (Think it’s not implemented yet, but Tim T. will check with Chip.)

·   Teal Cluster:  Any issues or concerns?

·   Andrew Grimshaw’s request for Linux front-end to campus grid project – still waiting on next version of AVAKI.

o      However Marty Humphrey has almost finished a grid Windows client that does direct file transfers and Katherine is experimenting with it. 

·   Proposal for Linux cluster support as ‘for-fee’ service.  At December meeting, Hamp said he’d translate current hourly Unix support rates into table/information showing cost for supporting cluster of X size for Y years.

·   Update on transition from clear text passwords to Eservices for Unix logins/connections to blue.unix, HSM, & Longtmp?

o      This transition will involve a major user education issue – especially for blue.unix users.

o      No timeline for this project yet – it has to wait until the password synchronization web site is up.  Think this is also waiting to synch up with another project – will check with Jim or Robin.

·   Mitch Rosen’s IT – Infrastructure Supporting Research Task Force.  (https://www1.seas.virginia.edu/itrtf).  (Maillist is itrtf@virginia.edu)  Final draft is circulating for input.  Katherine is doing the final editing.  Ed did most of the appendices that detail comparisons to other institutions.

o      CI-Team NSF proposal funded!  Not official yet, but Andrew emailed team that it will be funded.

o      Mitch sent an update about our participation in ORNL’s response to NSF RFP for next generation/iteration of Supercomputing Centers:  the Oak Ridge Associated Universities core universities:  U Tennessee, Duke, Florida State, Georgia Tech, NC State, U. Va., Vanderbilt and Virginia Tech; and others including U Oklahoma and Rice have agreed to team with Oak Ridge National Lab on a grant submission for NSF’s Petascale supercomputer program.  It is listed as one award of $200 million dollars over a four year period, beginning in 2010.  The preliminary proposal is due at NSF September 8.  We are in touch with the consortium schools, discussing potential roles and contributions from the participating universities.  He will update us further as more details emerge.

·   “Priority” access for participants in condo clusters:  Katherine’s proposal for PBS “Service Units.”

o      See Katherine’s document “PBS Service Units Proposal.”

·   Update on CSS Research Computing support staff and services relocating to Brown Science & Engineering Library and Alderman Library fourth floor in summer 2006. 

o      Katherine and Ed moved to Brown on 7/17.  Called the “Research Computing Lab” in Brown Library.  Fully functional by the start of classes, 8/23.  Phone number (243-8799).

o      Nancy and rest of RCSC moved to Alderman 8/7-8/9. Space in Alderman called the “Scholars’ Lab.”  Phone number (243-8800); staff phone numbers stay the same.

o      Kathy remaining in Wilson until office space in Alderman ready, hopefully mid-October.   It’s adjacent to Scholars’ Lab in former ILL offices.

o      Details about the move and space available at:  http://www.itc.virginia.edu/research/rcsc-moves.html

o      Tim’s office remains in Wilson.

 

III. New Business

·      Mitch Rosen & John Hawley’s concerns about ITC Research Computing support degradation vis-à-vis move to Brown Library.  Martha Sites met with Mitch & John on Friday (8/25), when/where they voiced their grave concerns.

o      There was some discussion about the rationale for this move (e.g. Wilson no longer “central”, Library has space and history of collaboration with faculty, Brown Library focuses on Science and Engineering and is ramping up their support, etc.).

o      Followed by discussion of the pros/cons of having full-time specialized staff vs. wage/students working on service desks.

o      Looks like the CI-Team proposal has been funded, and therefore that project will get 0.25 of Ed’s and Katherine’s time for 2 years.

o      From one perspective it looks like a location change, but that not much else has changed – but the perceptions and expectations of Mitch, John, etc., are different.

o      Will meet with Mitch and John, Martha Sites and Library staff, on Wednesday (9/30) – discuss future plans, ideas, priorities, etc. – and tour the space.

o      James will send email to Mitch and John and offer to meeting with them after the Wednesday meeting.  The bottom line is that we need to partner with them and find solutions.

·      Provost’s “10 Year Plan for BOV” – Specific items and general topics that need to be included and emphasized related to research computing support, particular for science and engineering.  Pull recommendations from ITRTF report?

o      James is working with Karin on a 3 page IT and Library section for the BOV 10 Year Plan – and this includes recommendations for a Center for Digital Humanities and a Center for Advanced Computational Support.  (Note:  the group that worked on the ITRTF report is becoming  an advisory group for James.)

 

Next Scheduled Meeting of ITC ResComp Management team: Monday, September 25, 2006, 10:30 AM in ITC-2015 Ivy Road, Room #220. 

 

    

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